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Unity with all… if only they conform

I recently had the experience of being fooled by someone I thought understood the idea of Christian unity.  He said so many things that sounded very loving and non-judgmental… but when it came right down to it, he wasn’t at all prepared for the challenge of accepting that I have the same kind of faith he does and that it’s possible that we both know God though I may be Catholic and he is Pentecostal.

I was having lunch at a table next to this man and a lady who was driving him home from church.  They had stopped for lunch because she felt that God was leading them there to speak with someone.  When he sat down, he introduced himself to me then turned to the woman and they started talking.  The conversation began with the woman saying to him, “So, I didn’t know you’d been to heaven”.  And the man told a beautiful story of a vision he’d had.  It included God saying to him that all Christians are the same.  The souls in Heaven of those who have passed on are not labelled as Pentecostal, Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran and so on… They are one body.  After he’d told his story he eventually started talking to me again and near the beginning of our conversation, used these words: We don’t need to all be under the same roof… but the walls between us need to come down.

Sounds good, right?  I thought so.  I love meeting Christians from other churches and when I get into a conversation about the faith with them, it is always in the hope that we can relate to each other simply as Christians.  I feel that it’s a blessing to be able to share what we have in common and enjoy the unity that is intended for us.  But not everyone feels that way.  Some people have pity on you as soon as they find out you’re part of a certain church.  Older traditions are seen as devoid of the Holy Spirit.  They think we go to church to feel like we’ve done our duty.  This man I’m talking about said things like, “Do you want to know God?” and “You must be born again” and “Can I pray with you?” and he prayed against the “religious spirit” within me and told me to stop running from God.  Wow.  Judgment without sufficient information.  I couldn’t be further from running.  I pray, I’m open to God’s leading, and I finally feel grounded and sure of things I want to do with my life.   Besides all that, I DO NOT believe in the idea of being born again and will never go back to believing that.  I’ve been an evangelical and it stopped feeling right… and my theology changed naturally, to the point where I understand Catholicism.   So I know I’m where I need to be.  I can practice my faith and have a relationship with God, without being in an environment where someone is constantly beating me over the head with a doctrine that I’ll never believe in.  I think we each need to be where it feels right.   It isn’t logical to think that your salvation depends upon acceptance of a particular doctrine.  I will always believe that my words and actions are involved in my salvation.  I know very well that I will be criticized by protestants for that.  But that’s ok.  It’s what I believe and it makes me want to be a better person because I love God and believe that “love does no wrong to a neighbour.  Love, therefore, is the fulfillment of the law”.  I am in complete agreement with John and that scripture has meant so much to me.  And I also completely agree with James, who said that faith without works is dead.  He wrote about the necessity of faith and works.  He wasn’t denying the grace of God.  But believing in God’s grace, for some of us, just cannot simply mean we are ‘born again’ in the way it is often understood by evangelicals.  It’s too easy and it allows people to think they’re far more special than everybody else and to treat the rest of the body of Christ like we’re inferior.  It’s not overly “religious” to believe that if you want to be saved, your character must change and you must try to love as Jesus loved.  And some Christians would do well to take a really good look at how Jesus loved.  For me the first thing that comes to mind is that he loved without discrimination.  The Bible didn’t talk about Him having pity on everybody He met.  He simply loved and spent time with people, being a friend.  And He taught them about how to treat one another.

The Lord did not create denominations.  We all know that.  But when I say that, I’m not saying you shouldn’t be a member of a particular denomination.  So many people use this idea that God didn’t create denominations to rail against the old traditions like Catholicism.  Many of them think they are going to be able to find the perfect way to be part of a church – “Apostolic” or “First-century” or something like that.  Well, here’s what I believe… there will never be a perfect church with perfect doctrines.  We are not God and cannot understand everything about what is unseen.  We know in part.  Each denomination interprets the message of Christ as best we can.  And the interpretations we have can certainly help us to live better lives and live the gospel.  Some people need to stop preaching the gospel long enough to see that kindness doesn’t mean trying to convert people to your way of thinking… even if you do it with a smile on your face and show compassion for those wayward non-evangelicals who couldn’t possibly have a deep enough relationship with God.

As I talked to my partner about it last night, we came to the conclusion that you can’t actually have a deep relationship with God apart from being in harmony with other human beings… and not just the ones in your church.  We all know what Jesus said – that what we do to other humans, we do also to Him.  But here’s something else to consider – God created us all, He created the earth and all living things.  The Spirit of God is everywhere… in everything.  God gave life not only to us but to all living things.  His life is in everything.  If you cannot be in harmony with those outside of your little North American evangelical bubble (or your Catholic bubble or your Baptist bubble – whatever the case may be), you are missing out on a large part of being one with God.  I’m no better than anybody else and I know my relationship with God can always be better.  But it is certainly there.  It is deep, but I don’t compare the depth of it with the depth of someone else’s relationship with God.  That’s not my business.  I give people the benefit of the doubt.  But for a long time I’ve observed that some people can love without needing to convert, they can truly be in harmony with people of all denominations and they look at us all as equals.  They accept differences in doctrine and realize that each Christian’s needs for a place of worship may be different.  I have evangelical friends and family  who treat my partner and I with the same love and respect (not pity) as anyone in their churches.   These people are living the gospel.

There is still no doubt in my mind about what I believe.  This is what I told the Jehovah’s Witnesses who just came to my door.  I believe in the message of Christ and have seen that message lived out in the lives of people belonging to all different churches.  I respectfully told them I didn’t want to meet with them again because their interpretations of scripture are not the same as mine and there’s no point debating them.  I’m very happy with where I am in my spiritual journey and very confident that what I believe makes more sense than Christianity has ever seemed to make before this point in my life.   I believe that I, along with people in many different churches, can truly live the gospel and that theological differences only make us more comfortable in our respective churches – they don’t make some of us more Christian than others.   As the song says, they’ll know we are Christians by our love.

“Preach the gospel at all times and when necessary use words.”  – St. Francis of Assisi

the ‘s’ word

When there is so much hate in the world already, why are we not unified, those of us who all claim to have the Holy Spirit?  Why is there so much animosity within the body of Christ and why are so many members of our churches hateful?  When there is so much opposition to our faith, would it not be beneficial to love one another as Christ told us to do?  If we can’t feel safe and accepted with each other, where can we feel safe and accepted?  The answer to questions like this is often, “Yes, but we do love them.  We love the sinner, but hate the sin (or the blasphemy, or whatever else we label their words and actions)”.  Perhaps we should stop labelling each other sinners and leave that to God.  Really, we’re all in the same boat.  Humanity is messed up and no one can escape that.  But salvation is possible.  We should be thankful for God’s mercy rather than trying to decide who does and doesn’t deserve it.  

 We actually sin when we use harsh words against those “sinners” we have trouble accepting (I’m pretty sure slander, gossip and malice are sinful as well… I might have read it somewhere).  Then we turn around and say we love them because God loves them but we hate their sin.  Well, we should remember that if we have the love of Christ in our hearts, it will change us and the way we talk to/about others.  I really feel that if we truly love others with the love of Christ, we should trust the Holy Spirit to give us the grace to carry out that love in our actions (or inaction).  Then we also need the will and the humility to follow the gentle leading of the Spirit.

I think one of the major problems in our thinking that causes a refusal to associate with Christians who have different doctrines than our own, is pride.  Sure, I’m proud that I’m becoming Eastern Catholic because it’s the tradition that seems right for my life and for my relationship with God, but I’m not proud of it in the sense that I wouldn’t appreciate, worship with, or have a good spiritual discussion with a Pentecostal or an Anglican or a non-denominational Christian (which is my background).  Heck, I’d love to have a good talk with people of any religion… but hey, that’s just me.  I have some fundamental beliefs in which I’m very confident, but my fundamental beliefs don’t include very specific ideas of what constitutes sin.  I really believe in the idea that love is the fulfillment of the law.  It’s emphasized in the gospels over and over that love is more important than dogma.  Our Lord Himself was the revolutionary who gave us that idea.  The reason is actually very logical.  The true, unconditional love of Christ will help to keep us from doing harm because God is entirely good.  Things which are labelled “sin” are often things that hurt ourselves or others.  The more we truly love, the less we will harm others and ourselves.  Therefore, the more we truly love, the less we sin.  Ask God to help you see others through His eyes… and see what happens.    

When it comes to differences in doctrines, especially our ideas of what sin is, something to consider is that we are all on a journey together, we are all at different points in our journey with God.  Nobody can come to a greater understanding of our Lord by being bullied into becoming something they’re not.  Here’s an interesting thought.  God created us.  Hmm.  Stop and think about that.  He created us… which means that who we are is who we’re meant to be.  Sometimes it’s hard to really understand ourselves when our true selves can be masked so much by the marks time leaves on us.  But maybe when we know and become who we are, we’ll know God more fully.  I think what the Lord requires is my life, my willingness to learn, grow and little by little, become what I am meant to be (whether or not it lines up with what my culture or the Christian subculture says I should be). 

If your own thinking and reasoning, with a good heart and good intentions, leads you to a belief that is different from another Christian’s, it’s ok.  Don’t be afraid to think and question.  I’ve done it again and again and it always leads me back to where I started, but I come back more humble.  It has only led me to peace, love and harmony.  May we all be in harmony with one another and may we all learn what it means to love.

“Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbour has fulfilled the law.  For this, “You shall not commit adultery, you shall not murder, you shall not steal , you shall not covet,” and if there is any other cammandment, it is summed up in this saying, “You shall love your neighbour as yourself.”  Love does no wrong to a neighbour; love therefore is the fulfillment of the law.”  – Romans 13:8-10

one

First of all, thank you for finding my blog and taking the time to see what it’s all about.  In my first post, I’d like to share my vision for this blog and give you a good idea of why I’m here and who might be interested in following my writing.  I will say that the views expressed on this blog will not necessarily reflect the views of all Christians.  I am not here to teach anyone what a Christian is according to the church.  I don’t even claim to be entirely sure of what a Christian is supposed to be.  It’s something each of us has to discover.   If you know for absolute certain what a “real Christian” is, I will probably offend you.  My wish, though, is that even if you disagree with something I say, you won’t hold it against me or miss all the good stuff in between.   

This is a blog for all Christians, for all interested in reading Christian writings, and for all “followers of Christ” who won’t call themselves Christians because of the unfortunate associations with that name.  When I say this blog is for everyone, I cannot emphasize enough that on this blog, there isn’t a “right” kind of Christianity, except the kind that is entirely loving, peaceful and respectful.  I believe in respect for all people, and the humility to say I don’t have all the answers – mostly questions and opinions. Some of us act like we know what God thinks about everything (and that, of course, means everything He thinks about others)… but if we could fully know the mind of God, we wouldn’t be in the huge mess we’re in.  Understanding leads to peace.  So we should understand our limitations and also seek to understand each other.  

May we all come to understand that we are one.    

“I, therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, entreat you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling with which you have been called, with all humility and gentleness, with patience, showing forbearance to one another in love, being diligent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.  There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all.”  – Ephesians 4:1-6